{"id":6281,"date":"2021-04-08T10:49:09","date_gmt":"2021-04-08T10:49:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/?p=6281"},"modified":"2021-04-26T13:01:54","modified_gmt":"2021-04-26T13:01:54","slug":"signal-follows-messaging-apps-into-money","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2021\/04\/08\/signal-follows-messaging-apps-into-money\/","title":{"rendered":"Signal follows messaging apps into money"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Encrypted communications app Signal is seeking to combine messaging and digital payments for users, following similar initiatives from Facebook and Telegram.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/signal-mobilecoin-payments-messaging-cryptocurrency\/\">According to <em>Wired<\/em> magazine<\/a>, Signal is introducing support for a new cryptocurrency called MobileCoin in a bid to keep up with the features offered by its more mainstream rivals.<\/p>\n<p>Signal recently passed 100 million global installations of its app, which is still less popular than Telegram (which has around 500 million global users) and WhatsApp (with more than 2 billion users).<\/p>\n<p>However, Signal saw a surge in downloads in January after WhatsApp revised its privacy policy, apparently allowing parent company Facebook to exploit the content of communications between mobile users and businesses for advertising purposes.<\/p>\n<p>On January 7, Tesla CEO Elon Musk <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1347165127036977153\">tweeted \u2018use Signal\u2019<\/a> to his 50m-plus Twitter followers.<\/p>\n<p>According to academic Lana Swartz, social media firms\u2019 move into money is motivated by the increasing convergence of messaging and payments.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMoney is becoming entailed in the Silicon Valley social media tech industry. Suddenly, the infrastructure rails are changing. They are moving from banks to companies like Facebook and Google,\u201d <a href=\"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2020\/08\/04\/tiktok-shows-the-message-is-the-money\/\">she told New Money Review last year<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In an interview with <em>Wired<\/em>, Signal founder Moxie Marlinspike said the app\u2019s new payments function would extend its privacy protections to money transfers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s a palpable difference in the feeling of what it\u2019s like to communicate over Signal, knowing you\u2019re not being watched or listened to, versus other communication platforms,\u201d Marlinspike told <em>Wired<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would like to get to a world where not only can you feel that when you talk to your therapist over Signal, but also when you pay your therapist for the session over Signal.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>However, Signal\u2019s move into money will be fraught with regulatory risk.<\/p>\n<p>Facebook\u2019s attempts to launch its own money called Libra (later renamed Diem) have <a href=\"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2020\/11\/05\/why-libra-was-bound-to-fail\/\">so far been stalled by global financial regulators<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Facebook <a href=\"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2020\/11\/06\/whatsapp-gets-green-light-for-payments-in-india\/\">has since focused on integrating payments into WhatsApp<\/a> by linking users\u2019 bank accounts to the messaging app.<\/p>\n<p>In 2018, Telegram launched an initial coin offering (ICO) to help fund a network of payment tokens called \u2018Grams\u2019, <a href=\"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2020\/05\/13\/social-network-telegram-abandons-blockchain-plans\/\">but later abandoned the idea<\/a> after being accused by US regulators of having breached securities law. Telegram was then forced to offer a partial refund to investors.<\/p>\n<p>Signal will initially trial payments using MobileCoin in the UK only. UK-based users will be able to access a new payments feature in the app. To use MobileCoin, they will need to buy the cryptocurrency on the FTX exchange and link it to a MobileCoin wallet on their phones.<\/p>\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/mixin.one\/assets\/MobileCoin-Whitepaper-EN_FINAL.pdf\">the MobileCoin white paper<\/a>, published in 2017, there is a fixed supply of 250m coins, called \u2018MOB\u2019. During a pre-sale conducted at the time, the project sold 35.7m coins to private investors for $0.80 per coin, raising $30m.<\/p>\n<p>In April 2018, MobileCoin raised <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2018\/04\/24\/mobilecoin-moxie-marlinspike-binance-labs\/\">$30m more in financing from Binance Labs<\/a>, the blockchain incubator of cryptocurrency exchange Binance, while <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2021\/03\/09\/mobilecoin-a-cryptocurrency-involving-signal-founder-moxie-marlinspike-just-raised-venture-funding\/\">in March 2021 the project added $11.35m in funding from venture capitalists Future Ventures and General Catalyst<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The MOB coin was listed on FTX on December 7 2020 and in the last two weeks has seen substantial appreciation, with the price of a single MOB coin rising from $6.2 on March 26 to $61.9 on April 6, <a href=\"https:\/\/signal.org\/blog\/help-us-test-payments-in-signal\/\">the day Signal announced its new payments venture<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>While this apparently insider-driven run-up may symbolise the latest bull market in tokens, some security experts are sceptical about the idea of combining messaging and cryptocurrency.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAdding a cryptocurrency to an end-to-end encrypted app muddies the morality of the product, and invites all sorts of government investigative and regulatory meddling: by the IRS, the SEC, FinCEN, and probably the FBI,\u201d Bruce Schneier, a public-interest technologist and a fellow at Harvard\u2019s Kennedy School, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.schneier.com\/blog\/archives\/2021\/04\/wtf-signal-adds-cryptocurrency-support.html\">said on his blog yesterday<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI see no good reason to do this,\u201d Schneier went on.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSecure communications and secure transactions can be separate apps, even separate apps from the same organisation. End-to-end encryption is already at risk. Signal is the best app we have out there. Combining it with a cryptocurrency means that the whole system dies if any part dies.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/eepurl.com\/du6eTr\">Sign up here<\/a> for the New Money Review newsletter<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/blubrry.com\/newmoneyreview\/\">Click here<\/a> for a full list of episodes of the New Money Review podcast: the future of money in 30 minutes<\/em><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Related content from New Money Review<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2019\/11\/27\/facebooks-money-moonshot\/\">Facebook&#8217;s money moonshot<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/newmoneyreview.com\/index.php\/2021\/03\/19\/how-to-live-with-polarisation\/\">How to live with polarisation<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Encrypted communications app Signal is seeking to combine messaging and digital payments for users, following similar initiatives from Facebook and Telegram. 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